In this episode, Mr Lens starts off by expanding on the previous episode's idea of wealth vs illth and how it could be used as a meme to get academics to draw graphs which could expose the effects of greed.

This is followed up by an interview with Graham Nicholls about out of body experiences. Graham has a new book out called Avenues of the Human Spirit which can be found here. What makesGraham's approach to OBE's unique is the combination of him coming from a rough working class environment rather than an academic background, and the fact that he errs towards the rational and scientific as opposed to the mystical and ineffable in his approach to what OBE's are about.

Music by Madness and David Sylvian/Robert Fripp.