In this installment, Mr Lens chats to Doug Lain of the Diet Soap podcast. This tangental yabbering goes all over the place and covers much ground, varying from alien abduction, abstract expressionism, Doctor Who as a shaman(!), the media, politics, time travel, Philip K Dick, Terence McKenna etc. During the talk Doug gets interrupted because a rather special parcel arrives for him. Mr Lens decided not to edit this out. Music by the Rolling Stones.